Comments on: Why the “Latte Factor” Doesn’t Work

By: Summer Reading | Nadine Dajani

Summer Reading | Nadine Dajani — Thu, 21 May 2009 03:40:20 +0000

[...] I hate to admit it, I’m a creature of habit. The “latte factor” (the theory that there a fortune lying hidden in our little, daily, needless expenses) [...]

By: Learning to be moneywise

Learning to be moneywise — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:07:00 +0000

Well, I was reading David Bach’s book that gave birth to the phrase “Latte Factor”. Nowhere in the book does he recommend giving up on the small pleasures of life – like, forinstance, your weekend dinner with your wife. His recommendations have partly been covered in Gnorb’s response.
But the other big point that he makes, and that my parents always made, is that we should not live on credit (except maybe for the house) – no buying that Apple gadget with a Credit Card swipe that cannot be settled off in the next month’s statement. Cutting small expenses help – they build savings to make those large purchases on Cash and not credit!!

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:40:56 +0000

I completely agree. I recently had a similar realization. Why give up the little things that make life better, when I could just not buy a new car and keep driving my perfectly good old one?

By: Tamrie Guthrie

Tamrie Guthrie — Mon, 28 May 2007 19:14:59 +0000

Part of being a grandmother is the joy in being able to spoil your grandchildren when you are with them; and your children. I think that we willl always look for ‘little’ ways to save money to spend money on the things that we want….and yes, Jason, you are the accountant, and I am just the Mom! And I appreicate you input, and counsel, but I will forever have the memories of the pool, the pony rides on grama’s back, the chairs, cooking, with their pots and pans, making aprons for their Mom….
Have I learned from you about finance? Yes! Have I learned to buy refurbished and save money? Yes! Are you wise beyond your years? Yes! Will I continue to spoil my beautiful Grandaughters? An emphatic Yes! Were you spoiled? Yes! And today, you are loved with all of my heart and soul.

By: Lazy Man and Money

Lazy Man and Money — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:18:07 +0000

I’m not a big fan of the latte factor, because it’s always titled as “do X, save $Y.” In the case of the show it was a pile of X’s to save $5000. Well, when you start applying those X’s to yourself, you may find that none of the qualify. Before I started writing or reading about personal finance, I couldn’t find any ways to save money on. You get to a point where there just aren’t savings to be had.
That said, it is a blanket statement to say that the latte factor doesn’t work and I agree with Gnorb about that.

For everyone there’s a different factor – some people purchase too many small things, some people splurge too much on large things, some do both and some do neither. To save the most you want to be in the last group. Of course that may be the least fun, so you’ll have to balance that if that’s what you choose.

By: Gnorb

Gnorb — Mon, 21 May 2007 17:25:50 +0000

Not to be rude, but I think you’re making a blanket statement. The point of the “Latte Factor” is not to deprive yourself of any fun little things like, well lattes, in the hopes of saving X amount of cash. The point of it is to understand that most of us let too much money slip by on things we don’t even realize we’re letting slip by. For example, the person that eats lunch at Taco Bells or Subway every day, instead of making something from home and eating out once or twice a week. How much are they really letting go (at, say, $6.00/meal) Or the person who stops by Starbucks every morning for a $2.50 cup of coffee and a $2.00 muffin. Or the couple who decides to go out every night for dinner to Subway or Olive Garden, instead of making dinner at home and going out once or twice a week, instead. (These are the couples whose food budget — if they ever look at it — will be something like $250 per week on dinners, not to mention the likely lunches out, or the Fourbucks — err, Starbucks coffee and muffin.)

In short, the point is to stop throwing money away, not to live in a miserable squalor in the hopes of some day, maybe, actually being able to enjoy something. Please, who wants to do THAT?! The hope is that this money will then be invested or put somewhere where it’ll grow for the saver, instead of sending Mr. Starbucks’s kids to college on Lexuses. Or for older folks, maybe the hope is so that they have enough to, you know, afford to give their grandkids something nice.

Now why all this? Well, some of us — a good many, I might add — DON’T sit there and make very large expenditures very often. While these spending choices make a huge difference (like financing $4000 for a new big screen TV, or as I like to define it, “The height of financial stupidity”), so do the little things. If a person decides to save $3000 a year by living in squalor, then blows $4000 on a brand new Mac, then what good did all the saving do? In either case the person is in the hole financially.

People like to control things. They don’t like to be controlled. So if someone puts themselves in a regimen which will take away all the little things they enjoy, that regimen will fail. (Trust me, as a fat person who tried to do without pizza and ice cream, I know. After being able to learn moderation in both accounts, I lost 35 lbs). However, if they cut back on a few of the things which they don’t need, on things in which they spend money more out of habit then out of pleasure, then they’ll find that the “Latte Factor” works for them, so long as they do something of value with the cash saved, even if it’s just sticking it in savings at the end of the week.

(Sorry for the rant. Keep taking your wife out to dinner on the weekends, but consider cutting back on your version of the latte: tech toys which you may not really need. Since I know nothing about your life, really, this advice is worth exactly what you paid for it, not counting bandwith or hosting costs.)

By: AJ

AJ — Mon, 21 May 2007 16:05:00 +0000

Technology is my achilles heel as well and you make a valid point. Now excuse me while I go check out those new golf clubs.

By: Josh P

Josh P — Mon, 21 May 2007 14:36:50 +0000

Man this is soooo true. I’m convinced that saving money is just like dieting for a lot of people.

They constantly try to find the “quick fix” of cutting out seemingly small things when the REAL problem is that $60k car in their driveway when they only make $40k a year.